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Pinkstergirl
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    09/10/06 at 12:48 PM
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Hi everyone

 

I have read the previous posts about mud fever and it's treatment.  Frodo has white socks so I'm wondering if he will suffer with the dreaded fever.  In order to work along the lines of prevention is better than cure, is there anything I could start doing now to ward it off?

 

I was thinking about mixing up some Ekoneem into a spray and aplpying that onto his legs so it builds up???


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    09/10/06 at 01:56 PM
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As far as I know white socks aren't any different from other colours. Mud fever is a disease found in the mud, not on the horse (same issue as rainscald). Has there been mud fever in your fields before with other horses? if so than it could happen again as it's in the mud.

 

I don't know of any preventative measures other than try to keep his legs from standing in mud for long periods, ie at a paddock gate where it gets churned up lots! I suppose you could put udder cream (farmers shops) on legs if you see them getting damp lots or pink! Udder cream works well as a barrier. We used to also use Sudocrem which being a barrier cream could help!

 

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    09/10/06 at 02:12 PM
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I've got 4 pots of udder cream at home that I brought back from the US - wonderful for your skin you know!  So I will put one aside.

 

Am unsure as yet of history of mud fever at yard.  Thankfully Frodo is out 24/7 with all the others all year round so they don't get into the habit of standing at the gate or in any particular spot for long periods of time.  Also, there are 5 horses to 16 acres of good grazing (rotated every season) so, hopefully, it won't get too bad.

 

We're so lucky at our yard.  58 acres split between 16 horses and really well maintained.


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    09/10/06 at 11:12 PM
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   Hi Pinkstergirl,

        The causative organism in Mud Fever and Rain Scald is Dermatophilus congolensis, a Gram-positive bacterium which has some fungus-like characteristics in that it produces branching filaments. This bacterium is found in the soil and is fairly widespread in Britain and Ireland and extremely prevalent in tropical climes. The disease it causes is also known as cutaneous streptothricosis and usually occurs in or after prolonged wet weather; other predisposing factors being insect or tick bites, or wounds caused by thorns, or even over-enthusiastic grooming of the lower limbs while they are wet or not sufficiently dried after hosing down. These factors are the route by which the baterium enters  the dermis or top layer of skin. As well as affecting the legs, it also causes lesions to appear on the back and the belly.

The condition is predominantly seen in mild, wet winters, although it may occur in wet summers.

   Horses with long, unkempt coats or heavy feathering on the legs are particularly at risk. Where it occurs along the dorsal midline, gently pulling the

 raised tufts of hair will reveal greeny grey pus at the base of the tuft. Where it occurs on the limbs the skin will be cracked and fissured, and may cause lameness or, at least, a disinclination to move.

   Poor hygiene in poorly cared for horses at grass is causative so improved hygiene is a priority in prevention/cure. Horses should not be allowed to stand in muddy conditions while the weather is wet without some access to shelter. In the case of stabled animals the legs should be thoroughly cleaned by cold hosing (warm water would encourage the pores to open, thus increasing the risk of entry by the bacterium), after which they should be properly dried (preferably by bandaging or the application of sawdust). Great care must then be taken not to damage the underlying skin by overzealous brushing.

   Where the disease is established in the lower limbs any long hair shielding the lesions should be carefully removed and burned and the clipper blades sterilised after use. Prolonged, carefull treatment by systemic antibiotics may be necessary. Washing with mild soap and tepid water, thorough drying and application of topical atibiotics may prevent mild cases progressing.

   PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE.

   Good general husbandry with consideration for shelter in prolonged wet and muddy conditions and regular inspections for wounds or skin parasites, along with gentle cold hosing and thorough drying of the skin should help to prevent this painful condition. The application of barrier creams or lotions is not widely recommended because of the risk of 'trapping' the causative bacterium next to the skin while creating favourable conditions for its mutiplication.

   Incidentally, the condition is sometimes found when rugs are removed/changed irregularly, the bacterium having been present on the coat before the rug was put on, and finding the conditions favourable thereafter.

   CAUTION!.....care must be taken by the carer of the affected animal lest the bacterium enters the hands via sratches or open wounds thereon; ideally gloves should be worn when treating.

   DERMISOL cream is effective in treating most cases if applied after following the advice above re. cleaning of affected areas.....(obtainable from your vet.).

   A mild solution of tea tree oil or tincture will cleanse and is antibacterial too.

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    23/06/07 at 12:43 PM
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Hi there

I'm new to Forums so not sure if doing it correctly!  For Mud fever (and sweet itch, rain scald, open sores, deterring flies/mossies +++) you may want to check out a 100% natural product that's been recently trialled & is newly available for all the above (just the one product!!!).  Stop-it-All.  Or see http://www.karenruggles.co.uk.  Hope the summer is giving Frodo some respite meanwhile!
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Hi everyone

I have read the previous posts about mud fever and it's treatment.  Frodo has white socks so I'm wondering if he will suffer with the dreaded fever.  In order to work along the lines of prevention is better than cure, is there anything I could start doing now to ward it off?

I was thinking about mixing up some Ekoneem into a spray and aplpying that onto his legs so it builds up???
Claire
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    09/12/07 at 06:22 PM
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Hiya,


I personally wouldn't use Neem oil. When my horse had Mud fever (same disease, different place!) we made sure it was washed like you mention, dried very well and put Udder cream on it....we also used sudocrem as it was cheaper. These creams are good at keeping moisture away from the skin (hense using Sudocrem! lol) and as long as you keep that up, keep away from rain then it will usually heal. Make sure that any scabs you take off are taken away and preferably burned. You must also make sure REGULARLY that the rug you use is brushed inside...personally I would put a layer of something on horses back before rug or rug could keep infection there! If I had a couple of sweat rugs I'd use those, change one and wash and put other on then waterproof rug on top. This disease is transferred by infected material so make sure no other horse gets to anything infected! Dont use grooming stuff on another horse for instance!

I nowadays always rug with waterproof thin rugs to prevent this, it seems to be happening more and more and I was always against rugs but prevention is better than cure I'm afraid.

Good luck. Good management of this and it goes very easily!
mms5555
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    01/01/09 at 10:25 PM
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 This is only my opinion.I purchased my paint filly at the age of 2yrs.Oweing to illness,I wasnt able to pick her up for another three months.During that time I paid for her grazing and care,however when we finally collected her she was in terrible condition,extremely wormy thin and dull.Her immune system was sadly lacking as in the first 18 mnths she got every skin condition available.I feel that a horses overall wellness has a lot to do with this.However I still had to deal with the nasties,and I found that Rawleighs ointment dealt with all these problems[no I dont work for them}very quickly and effectively within a few days.For mud fever,I soaked her legs in a large bucket of warm water to loosen the scabs,dried carefully and applied the rawleighs which sticks really well .Within about three days the area was healthy.For rain scald I simply apply.I am happy to say my mare is in very good order, now and never seems to have these problems anymore,and yes she was a lot of work at the time but it has all been worth it.In terms of rain scald though I certainlty think that a waterproof cover is the best and in muggy conditions remove the cover daily and get some air on the horses coat.As it has already been quite rightly said ,dont share ANY horsey gear.Keep your own things clean.I just totally cant say enough about the rawleighs ointment,it is a one item medicine kit for anything scabby even noses.

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    02/01/09 at 10:37 AM
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Definitely, unhealthy horses like humans will pick up anything that's going re: germs, infections etc. Great that your paint is in good hands now, love a happy ending.

Not actually heard of Rawleighs before and don't think it's available in the UK although found it in the US and AUS!

Shelley

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